Thanks, PTT! I'm really not trying to "get at" anything, and I am not judging anyone as a tester, but the post on TTC made me think, too. She was asking for people not to do that glitch on TEST. Yeah, I know it's considered a rude glitch and I know WHY they don't want people to do it. I've heard all the arguments against it and have used many of them myself. But it did get me thinking that TEST is the perfect place to try out these glitches. LOL, I'll bet the guy doing it there is not doing it for scientific purposes (like reporting it and telling them exactly how he did it) but it seems to me the perfect thing to do. I might try to duplicate it next time I'm there, so watch out .

I have been on test for 3 years and it always seemed to me that the players I knew there were more interested in the cloistered environment aspect than anything else....unless something BIG comes out. LOL, someone actually said once "don't report that; they'll shut us down and we'll have to go to open!" Personally, I think there are too many problems they need to fix NOW before coming out with something new! No, I don't report the wall glitch every time I see it. My question was do people report glitches; not do they report them every time. I see what you're saying about that and I also see how I may have been unclear there. I do report most stuff I find on test even if I am fairly sure they know about it. I also get a nice thank you note in response, often with a request for more info, to almost every bug report I have ever made. They sometimes tell me they are aware of the problem, which tells me I don't need to report it anymore. How can I be sure that just because they've gotten 10 other reports, I can stop reporting? Maybe they think they fixed it and they need further reports to tell them they haven't? Just my thoughts, YMMV.

The biggest thing that struck me in that and other posts on the subject (and this is completely off topic from my OP) was that people want to stop others from using glitches THEY don't like, while wanting to keep access to the ones they do. I'm really surprised more don't see the double standard there. As long as the VP glitch is there, there WILL be those like BT who thinks it's the bomb and will do it every chance they get....and why not, if TT doesn't seem to care about it?

I'm a little bit confused about your post, Di...I don't disagree with any of it, but I wasn't talking about you or any of your friends, or about most of the stuff you mentioned. I'm glad you report bugs though - that was my question, thanks for your input.

PS I don't really understand what the amount of time I spend on test has to do with the OP, sorry.

What I see being the problem is here god forbid someone questioned test!!! oh no!! the "perfect" test world came into question feathers got ruffled, quite silly really. There was NOTHING wrong with the OP.

I think someone (ok - I forget who already) brought up a good point.
There are some 'bugs' that have been reported numerous times and not fixed.
I work for a software companies and I'm always filing bugs and Enhancement Requests. Some of these are closed just because it would be too much effort for too little result. The good news for my company is that I have a way to look up a particular issue and let the customer know that and what the workaround is. This would be nice to have on Test. Some kind of list that we can view of issues already reported and/or being worked on or closed! That way, we'd be able to more clear as to what needs to be reported still.

hi everyone i was at that vp to i was on my max toon to help them out since there were only 5 there and their gags weren't max we were on the skel side when he did that glitch he came over our side to say hi to us and i said hi back didn't realize it was a glitch yet i thought somehow they got done fast until after we got done then i realize it was a glitch lady violet twinkletoes happens to be a nice lady she was upset being left on her side by herself anything could of went wrong at anytime now if we had a full load she probably wouldn't get this upset because she would have others there with her the only glitch i know is in the factory and the mint the others i have no clue how they are done and i also do alot of reporting when i see a bug or anything else that's not normal i thought i just give you all my side of the story after reading all this i been on test for 2 years and only seen this glitch done total of 3 times

Gigi I really am not sure what you're trying to say in your post. Nowhere did I question the need for teamwork or organization; nowhere did I question what interests anyone at all. I freely admitted that I don't come to test much - perhaps that's why you don't see me there?? I was once a diehard tester, so I do know what it's like to be one.

I'm really getting the impression that some of you think I'm questioning testers or test or something - when what I was questioning was "do you report glitches?". And I then questioned the double standard I saw using 2 specific glitches as an example. Never once did I question anyone in particular or even comment on anyone in particular. I was just curious, actually. It was just an idle question.

It really has nothing to do with whether or not I go to test at all - but it does seem clear that those who do not play on test are not to question those who do? That's the only reason I can see for anyone taking it so personally.

LOL, I have no idea why that might be, except I do always make it a point to thank them for their work and this wonderful game that I love, and to wish them a nice day. I figure they get enough complaints and it would cost me nothing to be nice. I suppose I could give it a try next time I'm on test.

I was once a diehard tester and know what it's like. I seem to have ruffled some feathers with my comments and since that was not my intention, I won't be discussing that anymore.

Okay, Mod hat on.....

Couple of observations/clarifications...

1. Boy did this get off topic...typical, eh?

2. What I am getting out of the op is this is not a personal attack. No names were named just a reference to some toons she had previous discussed the bug reports/glitches with on test.

3. Lets try and make sure we don't make things personal, ok? I understand it is difficult to get all the possible meanings that the poster could of possibly intended in a written forum. Please give the poster(s) the benefit of the doubt.

4. This is not a them vs. us post. It is not attacking anyone on Test or any of the friendships on test.

5. It does not have to do with the specific event that happened on test.

6. It simply has to do with "do you report glitches/bugs/etc every time?"

7. As for my question, I get the "report em" for the bugs...lol...cute QT had me chuckling. Let me expand on it...when you want something fixed...how do you go about it? Do you report it and move on? Or do you keep going until you get it resolved? I am asking you to step out of toontown for a moment and consider the real world. When you receive unsatisfactory customer service, what do you do? And should this same technique be applied to disney's toontown? How many of our friends have we lost due to the unsatisfactory customer service and/or product that disney is now producing? That last question is rhetorical..no need for an answer


Fire away...

Well seeing as how my only duck is "Philosophical" , I can honestly say I don't have any ruffled feathers. I still don't see any double standards since I know I report everything that I find, whether I think it's harmless or not. I can easily see how people would feel attacked by the way the OP was stated, I know *I* felt questioned about my intentions on test. I'm sure Lady Z didn't mean to come across that way, but that's how I read it.

I don't think testers are any more defensive than the CCG is when they're questioned for that matter either. I could say how I've had very few positive encounters with the CCG and they will leap to say it couldn't possibly be anyone from the CCG who did it...how is that any different? I know I report bugs and glitches, I know my friends do too and I think we're all trying to clarify WHY we don't report the same bug day after day when we KNOW they know and have chosen (for whatever reason) to not fix them.

BTW...if we didn't go off topic, I'd think I was on the wrong board.

Tristan