Edited to address just the pertinent points.

In a CEO where we're not in a bunch of big suits, do you guys think it's appropriate strategy to have a one-fog-only rule? Irregardless of the level of the cogs facing you. Likewise, do you think it's appropriate strategy to wait to tune someone up until their laff is right next to the "danger zone" where they could die the next round if not tuned up? Don't you think it would be more appropriate to use that strategy in a battle where we are all likely to run extremely low on gags (ie, all Big Cheese suits). I do.

You beat me to it . . . I was on my way over here to start a discussion on the subject.

You are right, with the toons we had in there today it would have been no big deal to wipe out all the cogs. We only had raiders at the tables and were able to clear them out, leaving only 1 cog to fight in the 2nd round. However, there were only 4 Raiders at each table. Did you notice that the table had 8 chairs? When our suits get bigger, those chairs will fill up. So far, I've only been in battles where we've had 6 cogs per table. I've been in several of these battles with toons working smoothly together to feed the cogs, at our best we've left 10 v2.0 cogs for the final battle. How many will we have left when all 8 seats are filled up? How many would you have left with a group not working quite as smoothly? THAT is why many have gotten into the habit of conserving gags at the first battle.

In general, you will find toons that have been in the bigger battles to use one fog and only bring out the tu when laff gets too low to survive the hits.

I know that on test we used the one fog rule at first. Cogs seemed to be never ending and then we had more after the waiter thingy. I haven't felt it nessacery on open yet. The higher our suits get, the more cogs we will have to serve.

I use my pink slips on the 12's. Kills 2 cogs with one shot. Nothing more fun than firing a row of 4 12's.

I don't know how to "withdraw" a post, so I am editing this one. I'm sorry I raised this whole question.

Terri - I'm not sorry you raised it . Although I didn't see it before editing, so maybe there was something else going on.
I was a little confused last night with the whole 'save your powerful gags' phrases. Since I've only been in with little suits and we usually get rid of all but 8 or so of the cogs at the table, I didn't think we'd really run out of gags. As it was, we worked so well together that I think I had all my birthday cakes and storm clouds left at the end. I guess someone is going to have to explicitedly tell me the strategy because I am not going to be able to figure it out on my own.

I didn't realize that there will be more cogs sitting at the tables in future runs! That just gives me chills! Then, I guess I'll be the big cheese trying to find a bunch of flunkies to go with

Unnnnnhhhhh. I wish it was this way for VP

MissPoutyFace :

I guess I'll be the big cheese trying to find a bunch of flunkies to go with

then I wouldn't have to hear maroon5dancer complain that no one will go in with her because they all crowd to the Hollywoods. Then the Hollywoods jump because they realize there is a telemarketer in there or a CC or they forgot a HW. I however, go in with anyone(which means my win/loss count is getting worse).

I've never been in the longer battle, but I have never even come close to using all my gags. Usually I have every one of my level 6s left at the end of the first battle, besides sound, of course.

People are still working out in their own minds what the best strategy for BHQ is. V2.0 cogs and their strange math throw an additional monkey-wrench in things. In general I find that almost everyone has their favorite way to play and it rarely meshes with mine (which, of course, IMO is the BEST way to play. ). I don't mind trying new strategies or playing along with one I personally think stinks (and I have no opinion on the one fog thing yet) but I really, really dislike being bossed (which is different than making suggestions!). And of course, as with any new additions to TT we already have people who "know" the ironclad way to play and think nothing of insulting the rest of the team for not going along. I have to admit that attitude doesn't make me feel very cooperative.

At least for now my toon has plenty of gag unites so running out of gags shouldn't be a problem. I hoard my level 7s but have no problem using them if needed - I get them back super fast even without invasion points. But it's true that toons in BBHQ are big enough to take some hits. We're going to run out of sound in there regardless, and LLKR is worthless, so we have to figure out new ways (sure glad I have experience playing without sound, though I don't guess my soundless would be too welcome in there ). Why do those who got to big suits faster or play with the big suits and get those battles be the ones to decide how it's gonna be? And why insult people who don't go along? (I didn't see any of these posts till now so I'm not accusing you of saying anything like that. It's all over TTC, though!) I don't see any point in tooning up every time we get hit, but whenever I say "no problem" someone ends up doing it anyway. Maybe they're worried about seeing their name mentioned later as a non-team-playing-toonup-hog, which is a little side benefit of being able to mention names.

I'm not sorry you raised the question. I would love to see civil discusison on various strategies and their pros and cons, rather than the drivel we read over at TTC. I would love to participate in the discussion, but I also have no intention of just blindly following along with what someone else has decided is best without trying it out for myself. Part of what I like about this game is figuring things out for myself, and my favorite ways are never those of the majority. Part of the beauty of an MMORPG, Welcome to Toontown!

Yeah, well i'm gonna MAKE a new strategy(because I DON'T HAVE SOUND) I don't care how many elevator jumps i get, I AM going to go in there and live. So what if you don't have sound. I think it is unjust that ALMOST EVERY BOSS strategy relies on you having sound. I HATE having to FIGHT my way into DA's and Bullion Mints. The gags YOU CHOOSE you are supposed to have a choice in. But it seems like you HAVE to have sound or you CAN'T do anything but buildings.It's just powered by lazyness in the bullion and DA. People just want to mindlessly get through fast. GRRRRRRRRR! Sorry, I just couldn't stand it anymore.

I play soundless toons too, and I am very glad there's a battle now that can't just be won with the use of sound (at least not without restocking it). *YAWN*

I think it's helpful to talk and see different ways of doing it. Having only done my second last night I'm sure I made some odd gag choices and once choose nothing. I didn't realize that the number of cogs at the tables changes depending on suit size going in? so it's kinda like gavels? That's what effects the number of cogs in the second round of cogs? I am still figuring it out myself and not sure what strategy would be best. The only strategy I play by is cogs die and toons live. However that is achieved doesn't really matter to me.

I am a bit confused. Yes it's true. About the golfing? I did the one last night and we had two golfers and six squirters and to me it was way better than the first one. I got down to about 42 or so but no unites were used and all had enough snacks (I think). So what exactly is the point of golfing? I did try and golf for a bit and wasn't sure what I was doing or if what I was doing was helping anything so I decided to squirt again. I am getting better at jumping off and not getting hit.

When on the table, I did notice that one time I thought I had my gauge in red and then released it and nothing. I realize it is a short amount of time it is red but I was sure I was gonna hit him for more than 6 lol. What is the best way then? as soon as it turns red?

Sorry lots of questions and I do like to learn as I go. I also like to ask lots of questions as I go. I think I figured out the serving table thing though.

Just like in the mints, you have toons that disagree on fogs...I prefer one fog, leave the elevens and tu and finish... to each his own. I think when you are with a soundless toon and the other 3 have an opera singer... THAT is the time to use the gag. I personally have NO problem keeping that gag at 0 to go. (5500 merits will do it every time ) Mint runs, and soon DA runs all add up quick. IMO the 2.0s are great for a heavy drop (with no counter attack) after they are exposed. I realize that it's only 3 extra rounds using these and it's relying on people to use their 7's but it's just an idea.

The quick TU; I haven't maxed my TU yet so I personally am guilty of keeping closed mouth smiles all across
but NOT when my gag contribution is needed to avoid more damage. THAT is when the quick TU is frustrating. If you don't take care of the 2 unlured cogs, then fixing the 3 missing LP's from a picked pocket is pointless if one of the cogs survives and undoes your TU.
No offense ladies, but it reminds me of the little girl in the sand box, playing nurse, wanting to fix everyones boo boos sometimes... putting on band aids...sometimes it's cute...sometimes I just want you to SQUIRT THAT COG SO I CAN DROP A PIANO! (and maybe hit him)...anything...water bottle,squirting flower... "Can you help Me?" !!
(as I side note; Having said that, I have found I prefer playing with the girls, since they play a lot nicer )

I imagine BBHQ has brought some toons out that you seasoned toons haven't seen in a while, is that true? If so, I imagine a lot of the "Old School" methods are expected to be used... I think V 2.0 demands that strategies be "re thunk".

I was guilty of looking at suit size when I first started...but a few people on here taught me...it's what's on the inside that counts...so the shuffle I don't get... (I do understand it at VP though but now I find it challenging to see if you can keep all the little guys around to dance) at BBHQ all those toons almost certainly have boss experience and almost certainly most of them are going to MAX that suit too...so lets learn together.
just my 3 cents
M@

CBB and I did one last night with a super group of toons. We had 3 golfers and slowed him down considerably.

Golfing turns his treads pink then red and sloooows him down making it easier to get those 4 and 6 hits. I've been in a couple where only 2 golfers and there was no point. It just takes alot longer to get him red and finish the battle. The key to this battle is to get done before the 20 minute mark. He gets more dangerous and his hits take 19 away from you and he takes away one of the snack places.

Usually, once he goes red and we have 2 golfers I hit the tables. As for the red, MST, once it hit red it resets. You really have to anticipate when it is going to hit red and release the shot. It's a timing thing I've done it 3 times now.

And yes, the bigger the suits on the elevator the more tables and cogs to feed. Just like more gavels in CJ.

Back to the reason for the thread. I go with the flow. Teamwork is the key to this battle. I like this one alot. I get to wiggle my toosh and golf and watch the purple cat shake his booty too!!

LOL I like MST's strategy too (did I just say that? ) I didn't realize about the extra table cogs either but now thinking about it when I did a couple of CCG ceo's I was with bigger suits and there were more. The last handful I've done w/o them we've been small enough that we left either none or just one cog left. Never a gag problem here either. Sheeesh how much overkill would you need to leave the first battle with not enough gags left to kill quite a few more cogs? Granted it would usually be pick them off one or two at a time but still....doable.

As for undersounding. I've played both ways. Either works for me. I only worry about TU if I'm left with out a real gag choice (one lures, one TNT's, one caking or storming a smaller cog example) then I'll TU if it's needed vs overkill. Of course TU at the end of the round.

Bossy bigger suits. Did another one after our little run last night (Sorry again Tina! Happy to hear you made a new friend ) BTW you guys rock at teamwork! Anyway the other one we did was only with 4 friends and the other 4 randoms. I wasn't on the side with "the toon" but a friend was. A pretty big suit (I forget exactly what) Very condescending and bossy during the cog round. One of the worst I've seen in a long while. During the boss part (they had 130 laff) they were taking snacks at one hit...so basically at 120ish laff. I golfed then went to the tables and got a few hits since he was extra Forey (is that a word? Another thing I wonder if it gets harder the larger the suits)? Anyway the toon at firsts just random yells whatever the phrase is about taking the snacks because they are falling off the table. We're all going HUH? We don't need them! Umm well that changes after awhile but we can't get them as Mr 100 plus laff left has taken them all. Bottom line is as I'm trying to go from single number laff to enough to take a hit or two I'm hit and go sad. He's blinking red, tall green cat is over 120 laff and from what I hear about 2 hits later they all dance without me. BTW friend checked and guess this toon is pertty well known at TTC (racing cheater etc) OK didn't mean to go off on that rant but just comment about MY way or the highway toons.

Mister Chipper....so sorry toons don't like your soundless! I will admit to sometimes being a sound snob. Mostly for the hurry factor. When you just want to get it over with but boss has us all (hopefully) rethinking that. Example is I did a 3 story golf course thingy last night. Toon jumps on with us at last second. He's sounless but otherwise good gags. I comment...uggg he's soundless (we wanted to hurry and ceo again) It actually went as fast if not faster than a totally sounded run. Sure we used more sound but with the ball game we managed to pick up enough sound that kept us going for awhile. The soundless would get the V skele. Worked perfectly! Now that I've played a course that way I may be a bit spoiled on the use more sound with 3 toons and let the 4th take out the V.

Elevator shuffle. Same run last night. It was actually funny (in a TT sort of way). We were only in a semi busy dist so it wasn't like River or Summit. About a dozen or so toons hanging around. Friends and I hop on the elevaor first and the rest fill in. One jumps.....of course they all jump and nobody takes their place. (sorry not ready for a 4 toon ceo yet Talk about running out of gags)! Anyway so we all jump off too. Friends and I jump back on again....same darn toons jump on with us. Same one toon jumps and the rest follow....AGAIN! Repeat with SAME toons and they all stay this time. So ummmm with 4 of us paying close attention the comment was made "aren't these the same toons we had in the last 2 elevators before the shuffle" Yup we all agreed they were. What was the point?????????

Did I ramble enough?

No, Nanner - not quite enough rambling!
That is one thing I like about the V2.0 cogs. You have to think again when taking them on. LLKR is not a tried and true method. Blasting with sound is not a tried and true method. So, thinking is once again involved!

Now, in the golf course (3 floor) I do like it when two toons fog, 1 trunks and 1 drop a piano on the V2.0 level 10. However, not everyone plays that way and they are more likely to do 1 fog and 3 trunks. But! I still like my way better