TTF Runs - can we please come up with a plan?

Littlespike

I am very glad there are scheduled TTF runs and look forward to doing more TTF VP's, CFO's, Wacky Wed. I know it is frustrating to get left behind, so I for one am happy to run again w/ anyone who got left out. (just holler "Meet here" or anything else and I'll come back to the pit or CB HQ lobby).

Staggering the TTF run schedule by a half hour seems to be a great idea since I often find that I am
a. running late (stuck in the airport, at work or RL, re-booting my machine, or TT stuff)
b. trying to do too many runs in a day (my darn Ubers are getting up there in suits so those days are less common)
b. not sure which toons to run and when

When I get left behind, (and usually it's my own fault), I try to find some other SF and we set something up ad hoc. In most cases I have toons that needs some other work. If anyone has
a suggestion as to how we help out those who got left behind, pls post. I for one woudl be happy to help them out.

LST

Granny MoMo · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:38 pm Post subject: View Single Post

I'm the same way! I'll be more than happy to help if I can. I just don't like the idea of having a "list" of which toon is going with whom!

Loopy · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:39 pm Post subject: View Single Post

Granny MoMo :

Why should "members" have priority? We have people tagging along on these runs and they could be members or not, how are you to know? Check the board before every run?? If you miss a run, you've got one half an hour later, as suggested! If you can't make that, post here and I'm sure there will be plenty of toons who will help. Show up when the runs are scheduled, load, and have fun! You start forming groups, you start creating the "clique" atmosphere! Who's to say "You can't go with that group because there are only [insert number] toons left?" That would not be fair, either!!

Why shouldn't members have priority? We are doing this for our group, this is not the CCG.

I'm done with this. I was just trying to be helpful and come up with a solution to what I felt was a problem. I think I'm the only one who feels there is a problem, so I'll drop it. I'll be at the runs when I can make it and I guess just hope for the best.

Granny MoMo · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:16 pm Post subject: View Single Post

Loopy :

Granny MoMo :

Why should "members" have priority? We have people tagging along on these runs and they could be members or not, how are you to know? Check the board before every run?? If you miss a run, you've got one half an hour later, as suggested! If you can't make that, post here and I'm sure there will be plenty of toons who will help. Show up when the runs are scheduled, load, and have fun! You start forming groups, you start creating the "clique" atmosphere! Who's to say "You can't go with that group because there are only [insert number] toons left?" That would not be fair, either!!

Why shouldn't members have priority? We are doing this for our group, this is not the CCG.

I'm done with this. I was just trying to be helpful and come up with a solution to what I felt was a problem. I think I'm the only one who feels there is a problem, so I'll drop it. I'll be at the runs when I can make it and I guess just hope for the best.

You're right, this is NOT the CCG. This is a group created for friends, for those who got tired of the politics from TTC, and from the griefing and other issues with the CCG. I thought this group was to have fun, socialize, and make new friends. I would hate to see it turn into something full of rules and cliques. Since you/Zig had suggested adding runs every half hour, why not try that first? If you still find you're getting left behind or you feel groups are uneven, then let's tackle that problem then. As I said, if anyone gets left on a run, for whatever reason, I know there would be plenty of other people willing to help!

Loopy · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:37 pm Post subject: View Single Post

I don't think it was ever suggested that we have runs every half hour. The way I understood it was possibly changing the run to fall on the half hour. So instead of a 9 pm run it would be at 9:30. Maybe understood it wrong though, seems to be a trend with me lately Smile

Granny MoMo · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:56 pm Post subject: View Single Post

Loopy :

I don't think it was ever suggested that we have runs every half hour. The way I understood it was possibly changing the run to fall on the half hour. So instead of a 9 pm run it would be at 9:30. Maybe understood it wrong though, seems to be a trend with me lately Smile

Could be I misunderstood, thinking we'd have runs every half hour?? ROFL! Wouldn't be the first time for me, either!

Some Granny Pickles · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:58 pm Post subject: View Single Post

For me personally exclusive is the way Granny maxed CFO and VP. Granny did that with SFs, including my awesome friend Kristin. I do cherish still doing exclusive runs here and there, because I have such super SFs. To get together with them is a guareenteed fun time. I need to start making more time for my SFs again, and get a few little exclusive runs together now and then so we can stay bonded.
But with that being said, I am here to meet new people, or to hang out with friends not on my friendslist. I would of never met such awesome people/friends like Pink, Nunya, Lady Z, Zig, Orville...the list continues had I not dropped being on friends only runs. Some of you are not even on any of my toons friendlist yet I consider you such awesome friends
. Now I know no one is saying friends only runs, but still excluding it to such a small message board to me it's not what I'm looking for. I just want to relax, jump on an elevator, stink the ones I know on the elevator, tell the toons I don't know on there that they rock, then hope that I see them again and again. Sometimes I will get left out, but usually I can wait around and another group will form.
I think this thread is a great brainstorming thread. I think we heard some great ideas that can be figured in to make things smoother next time.
Kristin we can all work together and try to find a smoother way that works well for everyone. Huggs to you, and sorry all the frustrations. You are awesome to want all of us together, and somehow we can figure out a good way to do that.

Good ol Zigzag Jabbertoon · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:00 pm Post subject: View Single Post

Granny MoMo :

Since you/Zig had suggested adding runs every half hour, why not try that first?

Hold up there Miss MoMo.

Zig has not suggested this. It was posted that the runs should start on the half hour instead of on the hour, not that we have runs every half hour.

For the record I am opposed to changing the run times (understand I am only one person) due to the fact the schedule was made after everyone had a chance to post when was a good time for them to run. If that has changed and it will not keep those on the East from running with us then I have no issues changing them.

Ok, continue on.

LadyZ · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:01 pm Post subject: View Single Post

Loopy :

The way I understood it was possibly changing the run to fall on the half hour. So instead of a 9 pm run it would be at 9:30.

Yes, that is the way I understood it too.

This seems like an easy place to start, although it won't help with the problem of randoms. Here is what I have gathered from this thread - that the majority has no problem with randoms except during special and Wacky runs, and that no one wants any member left out. I don't know what the answer is here, other than to keep our eyes open and get off the elevator to divide into 2 groups if there is too many for one. This might solve the problem anyway if the randoms are unwilling to run without a full elevator, when they get off, we get on.

I guess the question we need to answer is: do we want to be exclusive or not? and the answer I am seeing so far is that members are adamantly opposed to this. I know I am (again, other than special runs).

Now here is another question -

how many times has it happened, on a TTF run, that members were left out (and did not have enough left for a small load)? Is this a question of being left behind or of not getting in with certain friends? I have not heard of anyone getting left out before last night so let's start there. HAS this been a problem?

Let's talk about that. I have more questions to go along with that but let's just start with that one.

I think we have a good discussion here and I would like to keep it that way. Please remember we love this board because we can speak our opinions freely. So let's talk and not be offended by others' dissenting opinions, please!

Edit:

Good ol Zigzag Jabbertoon :

Granny MoMo :

Since you/Zig had suggested adding runs every half hour, why not try that first?

Hold up there Miss MoMo. Zig has not suggested this. It was posted that the runs should start on the half hour instead of on the hour, not that we have runs every half hour.

Clam down, big fella. I know for a guy who makes no mistakes it is hard to see that someone misunderstood! Wink

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Good ol Zigzag Jabbertoon · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:25 pm Post subject: View Single Post

LadyZ :

how many times has it happened, on a TTF run, that members were left out (and did not have enough left for a small load)? Is this a question of being left behind or of not getting in with certain friends? I have not heard of anyone getting left out before last night so let's start there. HAS this been a problem?

I don't think this is about not being with friends. I have not seen any post regarding not loading with friends. What I have seen is about not being able to go fight the CFO/VP.

I think it has happened enough times for it to be our biggest problem. As I recall it happened to your husband/you. You were the last one on the stairs and he could not load so you jumped on, leaving him as the last toon. I do not remember if he went with another group. Couple of nights ago I was in the lobby with Skids/Pink with six on the elevator. They did not load so I stayed back thinking there were more coming. No one else showed up so the three of us did not run. I know of other runs that someone has missed out because there was no more room on the elevator.

I have posted this several times before this so I am going to try one more time. After the time in the pit if we could try to from teams at the bottom of the stairs, instead of making a mad dash to the elevator, I think a lot of this would be solved. Last night we could have seen we had 9 toons in the lobby. OK, fine we have two teams, one with four and another with five. We have showed many many times a non-cajun four toon CFO is no problem.

By taking a minute to check gags and forming teams at the bottome of the stairs (one team on the right/one team on the left) we will able to load some great teams that should have no problems dancing at the end.

Before getting on the elevator....just wait a minute or two and make sure we are divided correctly to get everyone thru the fight. Its that simple!

Good ol Zigzag Jabbertoon · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:34 pm Post subject: View Single Post

YES it is hard. I understand now. Just a misunderstanding. Thank you for your help!

Go back to your factory or mint. Very Happy

LadyZ :

Edit:
Clam down, big fella. I know for a guy who makes no mistakes it is hard to see that someone misunderstood! Wink

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LadyZ · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:36 pm Post subject: View Single Post

OK I had forgotten about my hubby getting left off but that was more that he was told he was not ready for promotion so he left. When he got out - after we went in - he saw that he DID have merits and it was a mistake. If I had known he was ready I would have said something so we could try again for him to board and I would stay off.

Since this has indeed been a problem let's deal with it. We have tried to form teams in the lobby and it has not worked - the biggest obstacle I can see is lack of communication. But let's try it again, are there any easier ways anyone can think of to do that?

Good ol Zigzag Jabbertoon · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:55 pm Post subject: View Single Post

LadyZ :

and I would stay off.

But by you staying YOU would not have been on the run and these runs are for everyone here to enjoy everyones company. I have to think there are a couple of folks here that would upset of you did not get to load.

I have given this some thought and trying to form teams at the bottom of the stairs is the best I can come up. I WILL NOT be part of a sign up or LIST Rolling Eyes

for regular runs.

IMO this will also help with the randoms. If we see them in the lobby then we can plan for them before loading. Last nights VP was a perfect example of this group and randoms. Remember Pinky? This toon had level 3 (maybe 4) Toonup, level five throw and squirt and level four drop. I am sure this toon had been shuffled out of many elevators before because of his suit and gags. Yet, with this group walked right on and WON at the VP. If I am playing one of my maxed toons I have NO problem missing running with friends so this type of toon could go with some great players and get the feel of winning.

OK, enough of that. Anyone have an idea on forming teams that does NOT include a LIST! Evil or Very Mad

chocoholic1415 · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:58 pm Post subject: View Single Post

Two things:

1. My suggestion was to meet on the 1/2 hour, not EVERY 1/2 hour LOL

2. If you end up missing the run and can wait a few, you can always head back to the pg and keep your eyes open. I've been trying to make it a habit (a good one, I think) of always checking around in the pg after a run to ask "Did you win" to the toons I recognize and offering to helping out anyone who didn't with some revenge "Lets play again". If I happened to have just danced with Ladybug, I tell the toon to "Wait here" "I'll be right back" and switch to Ricky. Anyway, the long and short of it is, hang out in the pg for a few and you can probably round up a group of TTFs willing to go again.

Loopy · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:05 pm Post subject: View Single Post

Loopy :

I'm done with this. I was just trying to be helpful and come up with a solution to what I felt was a problem. I think I'm the only one who feels there is a problem, so I'll drop it. I'll be at the runs when I can make it and I guess just hope for the best.

A good friend just pointed out to me that my saying "I'm done with this" will not help solve this problem, and they were right. I'm not done with this, it is very important to me, and I hope people will keep adding their suggestions/comments on the subject.

One thing we all have to remember (ESPECIALLY ME) is that sometimes things come off sounding different in writing than they were intended. So please know that anything I have said on this thread that has come off sounding defensive or rude was not meant to sound that way. I just want these runs to be a success and feel that the only way for that to happen is to have a few simple guidelines. I don't want to take the fun out of the runs by making them too strict, thats one of the reason I left the CCG.

Mushy time here....I love all of you guys and really hope you'll add your input here if you haven't already done so. And if you have "Thanks a Million"!

Nanner · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:25 pm Post subject: View Single Post

Nanner :

I see this happening lurk

All sf's going together. Not that it is a bad thing...not at all....but not always. Make sense?

I also think it would take away the opportunity to play with people you maybe don't know so well (or at all) One group of sf's would go together....another group would go etc etc.

Frankly, I can see this being the case too. Not that there is anything wrong with going with YOUR sfs - but it seems to defeat the purpose of TTF runs -- why not just set one up with your friends if that's what you want? I love running with my sfs, don't get me wrong! But I also LOVE running with people I have to speedchat with, getting to know the people from here a little better that are NOT on my list (you never really know someone till you've done a lureless Cajun 4 man with them! Mr. Green

) So....for the sake of discussion, WOULD this be a problem?

I haven't any actual ideas to add to the mix yet, just more potential problems....it's the Lysol fumes I think..at least that's my story and I'm sticking to it! thinking1

LadyZ · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject: View Single Post

OMG I just did a HUGE mod booboo. Nanner wrote a good post with several points and I planned to quote just one point (see below) I accidentally clicked the EDIT button rather than the QUOTE button and ended up deleting her concise post and making it look like she wrote MY thoughts. So, to clarify, I am marking who wrote what:

Nanner :

I see this happening lurk

All sf's going together. Not that it is a bad thing...not at all....but not always. Make sense?

I also think it would take away the opportunity to play with people you maybe don't know so well (or at all) One group of sf's would go together....another group would go etc etc.

And this is MINE:

LadyZ :

Frankly, I can see this being the case too. Not that there is anything wrong with going with YOUR sfs - but it seems to defeat the purpose of TTF runs -- why not just set one up with your friends if that's what you want? I love running with my sfs, don't get me wrong! But I also LOVE running with people I have to speedchat with, getting to know the people from here a little better that are NOT on my list (you never really know someone till you've done a lureless Cajun 4 man with them! Mr. Green

) So....for the sake of discussion, WOULD this be a problem?

I haven't any actual ideas to add to the mix yet, just more potential problems....it's the Lysol fumes I think..at least that's my story and I'm sticking to it! thinking1

Please everyone forgive me, Nanner I hope you can remember what you wrote and edit your post back the way it was. As for me I am tucking my tail between my legs and going to bed or something.....OOF..... Embarassed

Sir Monty McGrooven · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:31 pm Post subject: View Single Post

Bad mod! Bad mod! No jellybeans for you! (just kidding)

Honestly, though, at least you were able to catch it. Smile

LadyZ :

OMG I just did a HUGE mod booboo. Nanner wrote a good post with several points and I planned to quote just one point (see below) I accidentally clicked the EDIT button rather than the QUOTE button and ended up deleting her concise post and making it look like she wrote MY thoughts. So, to clarify, I am marking who wrote what:

Nanner :

I see this happening lurk

All sf's going together. Not that it is a bad thing...not at all....but not always. Make sense?

I also think it would take away the opportunity to play with people you maybe don't know so well (or at all) One group of sf's would go together....another group would go etc etc.

And this is MINE:

LadyZ :

Frankly, I can see this being the case too. Not that there is anything wrong with going with YOUR sfs - but it seems to defeat the purpose of TTF runs -- why not just set one up with your friends if that's what you want? I love running with my sfs, don't get me wrong! But I also LOVE running with people I have to speedchat with, getting to know the people from here a little better that are NOT on my list (you never really know someone till you've done a lureless Cajun 4 man with them! Mr. Green

) So....for the sake of discussion, WOULD this be a problem?

I haven't any actual ideas to add to the mix yet, just more potential problems....it's the Lysol fumes I think..at least that's my story and I'm sticking to it! thinking1

Please everyone forgive me, Nanner I hope you can remember what you wrote and edit your post back the way it was. As for me I am tucking my tail between my legs and going to bed or something.....OOF..... Embarassed

Nanner · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:44 am Post subject: View Single Post

ROFL! Remember what I posted? Uhhh what did I have for lunch today? Even what day is it?

No problem! It was something about teams and how setting them up in the pit I didn't think was such a great idea due to the quoted part. Hmmmm what else did I say?

Something about randoms but I can't remember.....oh yeah! About how if we set up teams in the pit by the time we got into VP randoms could take a spot and leave a team member waiting by the elevator door. (no problems w/randoms.....but it would happen if we set up teams outside) There was more but it left with another brain cell......

I didn't have any great solutions that much I do remember Razz

LOL I was wondering when I wrote that post. Thought I REALLY lost my mind for a second. Laughing

Zippy D Doda · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:39 am Post subject: View Single Post

I have been so back logged with merits and buck for both Aunt Trixie and Zippy, I haven't been able to run with either ccg or ttf. Poor Zippy lost her buck progress during the update.

I go with the flow. Just tell me where to be and when and I am there. I did get to do a 4 man cfo with Orville, Hobbes and Banana Brain and loved it. Can't wait to participate in a Wacky Wednesday.

As for randoms, bring them on. I was that toon who got shuffled, to the point of not going to the vp or cfo. CCG brought me back to the boss battles and help me find this awesome group of toons!!

As for starting on the 1/2 hour, works for me. I miss runs cuz I'm not looking at the clock at the right time.

Peace out(as my teens now say)

Zippy Cool