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gagy the gag bunny · Toontown Central Toon

First, I would like to make clear that I didnt make this. I just found it and I think its very well written. This guide is by Bunny Summers. Thanks for the awesome guide!

Everyone wants to know the two questions: Why are high laffers so mean and why are noobs so annoying? There are two sides to the answer:

Seen from a high laffer’s side:

I worked very hard to get where I am. I went all the way through the game and now I’m in Cog HQ or DDL. I see low laffers who did not work as hard as I did, yet they are on the same level as I am and get to go where ever I go. In most games, you have to advance. Why should low laffers get to take the easy road? Why should I help them through when they don’t even have the courtesy to go through the WHOLE game like I did?

High laffers with ONE or maybe even TWO maxxed toons are still learning the ropes, still learning what limits they may have and may still not understand ALL the dynamics of the game, but still have a grasp of what they need to do to get things done. They may not be self-assured enough to go through the whole game without the help of other high laffers. And they might not understand that a low laffer doesn’t necessarily mean someone’s new to the game. I may have taken low laffers in various parts only to go sad because of some bone-headed thing they did and I will not take any more in. They need to stay in their own playground.

High laffers with more than two maxxed toons tend to get bored with the safety of having ALL maxxed toons and may want the risk of taking a few low laffers along and may not even care about the possibility of going sad. They have probably had more experiences with different laffed toons and understand it’s not always about the laff points that makes a toon. They will generally help any toon that needs it, but not all of them will take a toon through HQ or VP. Some believe in the natural progression in the game (go from TTC, to Donald’s Dock, to Daisy Gardens and so on) and some understand that’s not the way Disney designed the game, that they designed it so that anyone can go anywhere, anytime and it’s up to the individual to decide where and when he wants to go anywhere.

High laffers have been around awhile. They have accumulated more friends and don’t necessarily want to give up their friends for someone they just met. Ask them once “Please be my friend!” and if they say “No thank you” or “Sorry, I can’t”, take that to mean just that and don’t be offended by it or follow them around saying “You stink!”. This will only make them NOT want to be your friend all that much more. Also, they may take on a friend who is a low laffer and help them, for the time being, finish a difficult task. It may not mean you’re on the friends list for the long haul. For that matter, ANYONE who is on your friends list may not be permanently there. But everyone has made a very good friend in this game at one point and time. Just think of it as an opportunity to find someone who is more suited for you.

Shuffling: I am not sure whether I can take lower toons in the VP. What if they go sad? That would be sad and I don't want them to go sad on my account. And what if I go sad? I went through ALL that just to go sad? I'm not risking it so if I see a lower toon, I'm not going with them. I'd rather just ditch them, sending back to the playground and I can go on. This is better than me making them go sad on purpose right?

My advice: get on and stay on. You are not responsible for other people. If they took the risk, then they took the risk of going sad. Not your fault if you did everything you could to help the team and they still went sad. Do your part for the team. You can't worry about what other people will do. I, personally, would rather take the risk of going sad then spending half an hour jumping on and off an elevator.

If you absolutely do not want to go with a low laffer, stand aside and let low laffers go in first with another group OR on this site, find a group who wants to go in the VP, tell them to meet at a specific day, time and place (district) every week and exchange secrets with them. Otherwise, you can make friends with some high laffers you happen to meet, whisper "Let's find other toons." and make friends with other high laffers and then say "Follow me" and switch to a less busy district. If you have a group, find a less busy district too. More inexperienced low laffers HAVE to rely on higher laffers and therefore, the only logical place to go is in the busiest district to find those people.

Seen from a low laffers side:

Low laffers who have just started the game: I want to see every part of the game. Cog HQ is so cool and I can get into it. I know I can’t make it through without the help of a high/mid-laffer. Possibly they can help me out a little (or a lot). It’s so cool they are already maxxed! They must know a lot about the game and this is why I want to hang around them. They could take me to places that are a lot more interesting that Toontown Central and I get a chance to see what I’m missing. I think it’s rude if someone won’t be my friend and it makes me upset if they remove me. I mean, what’d I do? I will make new friends throughout the course of the game, but truly don’t understand a lot about the game: i.e. when to sound, lure, when’s the appropriate time to use what gag. All high laffers won't even pay attention to me, so how am I supposed to LEARN the game if nobody will help me who is higher up?

Low laffers who have at least one maxxed toon but are starting over. I may want the thrill of trying something new, trying to get through a difficult part with lower laff points or lower gags. I may make a “uber” noob to test my abilities or I may just want to get through the game faster. I know my stuff VERY well and am very capable of handling myself. If I go sad, oh well. It’s no big deal, but what if I succeed? That will be so awesome. Nobody needs to worry about me if I go sad. That’s why I signed up for the challenge of taking my low laffer. I have a lot of sf’s because they are my friends from my other toon. I generally leave people alone and won’t bombard them with friends requests. I don’t push myself on anyone because I know what it feels like. But if you play with me, you'll be sure to be playing with an experienced player and I'll do everything I can to help and you bet I won't go down without a fight.

My advice: Unfortunately, high laffers don't know WHO is the low laffer w/ the high laffed toon and who is the "n00b" unless they give them a try and unfortunately, some are not willing to give them a try to prove themselves.

Build up your friends list. It's much easier to have someone on your same level who you can have the same experiences, who is at the same place than to ask a person who is working in DDL to keep coming back to help you. They sometimes feel like you're taking advantage of them when this happens. You will meet nice high laffers and rude ones.

If you are new to the game and are in a room with high laffers, let them lead the way. They shouldn't get to dictate ALL the choices, but they are your link to making it through some rough times and they probably know a little more about the game. Let them engage battles with cogs first and if for any reason, you feel that they are out to get you, teleport out unless you think you can make it.

shuffling: I am nervous that a bigger toon will ditch me. It's happened plenty of times, so I jump out when I get nervous waiting. I don't want to be left in the elevator alone, so I participate in the shuffle just because I'm unsure of which toon will try to send me packing or will make me go sad.

Freeloaders: These are toons who won't engage in battle or when they do, they won't do anything. Generally, you can tell by how they act if it's a small child or not. If you can determine if they are taunting you or laughing at you, the most likely you've run into a freeloader toon.

My advice: Wait until they engage cogs. Just sit there with them until they move. If they engage the cogs in battle, wait for their move. Encourage them "let's go!", "Let's go fight the cogs!", etc. See if they'll get the hint. If not, I usually just pass along with them. Chances are, he'll go sad before you will if he's not helping. And if he goes sad because he CHOSE not to do anything, then it's his fault, not yours. He had the choice of playing or sitting there.
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